Comments on: Prop 2 Aftermath – Farmers Say They Weren’t Kidding About Prop 2 Ruining Their Lives

By: sam

sam — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:08:26 +0000

well the hsus distorted facts and snowballed the people into voting for prop 2, all , they are the worst enemy states have, they are an emotion based group who will lie to get their way, they do care about people in the state losing their jobs, farming operations shutting down or comsumers paying higher prices, all they care about is they got their way, and what happened to everyone else means nothing to them

By: Proposition 2 Aftermath: No-On-2 Was Just As Deceptive As Yes-On-8 | Johnny California

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:05:22 +0000

[...] Prop 2 will hurt California poultry and egg producers. Although producers have until 2015 to implement these changes, they are very costly changes with no payoff for the producer (other than legal compliance). This will increase the price of chicken and eggs, and/or force egg and poultry producers to move their operations. [...]

By: Prop 2 Aftermath: Quit Worrying. California Egg Industry Was Dead Before Prop 2 | Johnny California

Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:30:19 +0000

[...] Giant Sturgeon Wrestler, Col. Erik R. Sanderz Poulet IV disagrees with our hand wringing over the fate of California Chicken farmers in the aftermath of Prop. [...]

By: Heather

Heather — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:29:42 +0000

I voted against Prop 2, and my nightmare scenario is that Prop 2 is taken nationwide. In my opinion, it’s not about levelling the playing field – it’s about the fact that these changes in the industry will bankrupt egg producers. The new regulations essentially would double their cage size. That’s double the real estate. It will cost egg producers a fortune, and even with a level playing field, the payoff on their investments would be a long time coming. And we can’t level the playing field against Mexico, as far as I know.

As a former farm girl, I’m also very troubled by ag policy being written by people with no experience around livestock or agriculture. Much of the information put out by HSUS and PETA is misleading propoganda. I would’ve voted for Prop 2 as well, if I thought the video they showed in their commercials was the standard for animal care in the livestock industry. What they failed to mention was that they were showing egregious abuses, not a standard of care. (The calf being moved by a fork lift was especially over the top.)

By the way, many of the cage-free eggs you see are from traditional egg producers who have a small cage-free side business. So many of the cage-free operations will be in trouble with Prop 2 as well.

By: SilverFox

SilverFox — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 08:13:46 +0000

Heather, you’re right. But that gets us back to the problem of the legislature that doesn’t compromise to get things accomplished, but rather retreats into strict ideologist positions and throws bricks at each other. Hopefully Prop. 11 will pass (it’s leading 50.8% to 49.2%, but almost 2 million provisional ballots have yet to be counted, so we won’t know until official results are published 35 days after the election), but it will take time for implementation to effect a change of legislators.

In the meantime, I suggest we all contact the Yes on 2 campaign and say that while it’s nice that Prop. 2 passed, the decent thing for the campaign to do now is to press our congressional representatives for nationwide regulation, so as to level the playing field for our egg producers. It’s kind of an “if you break it, you have to pay for it” situation. Let’s turn this into a win-win deal. I’ve already contacted the Prop. 2 campaign, but I haven’t received a response. Let’s crank up the pressure on them to now do the right thing. BTW, I voted for Prop. 2. I don’t want to live to regret it by seeing egg producers lose their businesses.

By: Heather

Heather — Thu, 13 Nov 2008 00:28:05 +0000

I think the big problem here is the existence of propositions in the first place. As a new Californai resident, I was surprised to learn about the existence of voter propositions. It seems to me that issues like Proposition 2 would be much better decided by our state representatives with input from experts on the issue, rather than by the masses with no livestock experience who are responding to misleading TV commercials put out on both sides of the debate.